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ORGANISATION dossier

InterNASA

Advanced propulsion and energy research venture

ORGANISATION Gray Track (Exotic) Also: National Academy of Science and Arts LLC, InterNASA, NASA LLC

01 Executive_Summary

InterNASA (National Academy of Science and Arts LLC DBA InterNASA) was a Utah LLC launched by Joe Firmage in 2016. It claimed to pursue advanced propulsion and energy research with government connections. The LLC is now expired. The venture collapsed in 2018-2019 amid allegations of fraud, unpaid compensation, and false claims about government contracts.

03 Deep_Dive_Intelligence

InterNASA was registered as a Utah LLC under the name National Academy of Science and Arts, LLC, doing business as InterNASA. It was launched by Joe Firmage in 2016 as a successor to his earlier Motion Sciences Organization. The venture attracted investors including former Congressman Daniel Marriott and employed Bob Kiviat as a producer. Ronald Pandolfi served as an advisor. Eric Hermanson participated in what he later described as a "special project" through InterNASA, claiming it was a CIA Special Access Program. Public evidence does not support the CIA SAP claim and instead supports a private commercial venture. The Marmer v. Firmage lawsuit alleges InterNASA claimed a $200 million DOD contract that did not exist, obtaining $666,717 from investors with no returns. Kiviat sued for approximately $300,000 in unpaid compensation. The Utah LLC is now expired. Firmage was arrested on criminal fraud charges related to InterNASA investor solicitation and ordered to stand trial in February 2024. A default judgment was entered against Firmage in the Marmer case in August 2024.

Campaign B Update (R1025)

TTSA Parallel Structure:

InterNASA (2016) and TTSA (2017) were parallel cut-outs
InterNASA: private/quiet cut-out (technology assessment)
TTSA: public/loud cut-out (disclosure)
Puthoff was the common link
One-year stagger suggests coordinated strategy
Both collapsed when cut-outs no longer needed
InterNASA used 'intelligence summaries' and surveillance — IC methods

05 Related_Entities (8)

05b Related_Topics (2)

Directed Energy

usa → russia → china → israel → uk → germany → france → japan →

Plasma Propulsion

usa → russia → china → japan →

06 Research_Findings (4)

Finding

InterNASA = Utah LLC now expired. 14+ Firmage entities reconstructed.

Finding

Marmer: $200M false DOD contract, $666K invested. Kiviat: $300K unpaid.

Finding

Lab Project dead-end since 2019. Firmage facing criminal fraud charges.

Finding

07 Key_Findings

▸ National Academy of Science and Arts LLC DBA InterNASA; Utah LLC (expired); Firmage venture 2016-2018.

08 Intelligence_Analysis

National Academy of Science and Arts LLC DBA InterNASA; Utah LLC (expired); Firmage venture 2016-2018.

09 Timeline_Mentions (9)

2016

InterNASA (National Academy of Science and Arts LLC) launched

Joe Firmage launched InterNASA as a Utah LLC (National Academy of Science and Arts LLC DBA InterNASA), claiming advanced propulsion and energy research with government connections.

Personnel

2016-01

Hermanson "special project" begins with InterNASA

Eric Hermanson began what he later described as a "special project" involving InterNASA, Firmage, and Pandolfi. He claims this was a CIA SAP; evidence supports a private commercial venture.

Personnel

2017-10

TTSA Launches, Elizondo Resigns — Coordinated Disclosure

The October 2017 TTSA launch and Elizondo resignation were coordinated events that set up the December 2017 NYT disclosure. TTSA served as the public-facing cut-out for the Invisible College, compleme

program

2017-12-16

NYT Article Exposes AATIP and TTSA

The December 16, 2017 NYT article exposed AATIP and TTSA to the public. The disclosure was coordinated, not independent journalism. The article triggered a DoD security review that would lead to the t

program

2018

InterNASA project "ceases to exist"

The InterNASA project collapsed in 2018. Hermanson reports the project reached a dead-end, technology was discredited, and relationships deteriorated.

Personnel

2018

Firmage Network Project 'Ceased to Exist' — Informal Cut-Out Terminated

Around 2018, the Firmage network project 'ceased to exist.' All 12+ Firmage LLCs began expiring. The informal SAP was terminated after the December 2017 NYT exposure triggered a DoD security review. T

program

2018-01

SEC Completes ManyOne Investigation — No Enforcement Action

The SEC completed its investigation of ManyOne LLC in January 2018 with no enforcement action. Approximately $59 million had flowed through the entity, potentially including pass-through SAP funding.

program

2019

Bob Kiviat sues Firmage, Pandolfi, and Marriott

Bob Kiviat filed a lawsuit against Joe Firmage, Ronald Pandolfi, and Daniel Marriott seeking approximately $300,000 in unpaid compensation connected to InterNASA work.

Personnel

2023

Joe Firmage arrested on criminal fraud charges

Joe Firmage was arrested and faced criminal fraud charges related to InterNASA investor solicitation. In February 2024 he was ordered to stand trial.

Personnel

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10 FAQ

What is InterNASA? ▾

What role does InterNASA play in the research network? ▾

InterNASA is classified under the "Gray Track (Exotic)" category, serving as Advanced propulsion and energy research venture. InterNASA (National Academy of Science and Arts LLC DBA InterNASA) was a Utah LLC launched by Joe Firmage in 2016. It claimed to pursue advanced propulsion and energy research with government...

What evidence supports the InterNASA assessment? ▾

The intelligence assessment for InterNASA is supported by 3 primary sources and 4 research findings. Key sources include "Utah LLC registration (expired)", "Marmer v. Firmage complaint", and "Kiviat v. Firmage/Pandolfi/Marriott complaint". These documents provide the evidentiary basis for the analysis.

How does InterNASA connect to other entities in the network? ▾

InterNASA is connected to 8 entities in the intelligence network, including Joe Firmage (undefined), Ronald Pandolfi (undefined), and Eric Hermanson (undefined). Key relationships: Joe Firmage: connected, Ronald Pandolfi: connected, ; Eric Hermanson: connected.

What is InterNASA's mission and strategic role? ▾

What research findings mention InterNASA? ▾

InterNASA appears in 4 research analysis documents, including "InterNASA Corporate Reconstruction", "Funding Flows & Financial Loss Mechanism", and "Ceased to Exist Event & Firmage Legal Downfall". InterNASA = Utah LLC now expired. 14+ Firmage entities reconstructed.

What are the alternative names or aliases for InterNASA? ▾

InterNASA is also known as: National Academy of Science and Arts LLC, InterNASA, and NASA LLC. These alternative names appear across different source documents and may reflect codenames, abbreviations, or historical references.

What external sources document InterNASA? ▾

InterNASA is documented by 3 external sources, including 1 document and 2 court record. Notable references include "Utah LLC registration (expired)", "Marmer v. Firmage complaint", and "Kiviat v. Firmage/Pandolfi/Marriott complaint".

What is the historical timeline for InterNASA? ▾

InterNASA is referenced across documents spanning 2016–2024, with activity noted in 2016, 2017, and 2024. This temporal range is derived from the primary source documents in the research archive.

What documents should I read to learn more about InterNASA? ▾

To learn more about InterNASA, review the 3 primary sources, and 4 research findings linked in the source documents section of this dossier.